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]]> By: Economics9698http://usa-wethepeople.com/2010/02/seminole-county-libertarian-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-843 Economics9698 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:07:48 +0000 http://usa-wethepeople.com/?p=3672#comment-843 Two Libertarians set to run for District 33By Abraham Aboraya | February 10, 2010SEMINOLE COUNTY - The largest Florida House of Representatives district in Seminole County could make history in August by becoming the first third-party primary fight in the state's history.Franklin Perez has been running for House District 33 for the last three elections. In 2006 and 2008, the Libertarian ran as a no-party-affiliation candidate, but for 2010, he announced his candidacy as a Libertarian.That's because the law was changed in 2007, and now anyone can announce as a candidate of the party of their choosing.That meant two things: Perez could announce his candidacy as a Libertarian party candidate without getting the nod from the party. But it also means that, because Ellen Paul announced her bid for House District 33 as well, there will now be a primary."In the past, in order to be the Libertarian candidate on the ballot, you had to be nominated by the Libertarian Party," said Sean Concannon, the chairman of the Libertarian Party of Seminole County. "One of the reasons Franklin (Perez) ran NPA was because he could never get that nomination. In fact, he asked it and was declined."In Seminole County, there are about 700 registered Libertarians (remember, voters registered as no party affiliated can't vote in a Libertarian primary).In House District 33, there are about 181 registered Libertarians, which is about 150 to 160 households.Mike Ertel, the Seminole County Supervisor of Elections, said the race will show a microcosm of voting statistics. He said this will be a case study in the theory that candidates drive turnout - but on a much smaller scale."Even political parties small in numbers are diverse in opinions," Ertel said. "So they should be able to field a candidate of their choice."Paul was registered as a Republican up until Feb. 1, according to records about her voter registration. She also lives in Apopka - which isn't in District 33 - but said she will move if she's elected. State law only requires candidates to live in their districts after they are elected.This has led Perez to call her a "fake candidate" and accuse the Seminole County Libertarian Party of personally attacking him.He said he first garnered the ire of the Libertarian Party when the press published "anti-Hispanic remarks" by former Libertarian Party Chairman Mark Clifford.In April 2004, Clifford sent an e-mail to Perez saying, "Your Hispanic nature appears to start creating conflict. ... Being machismo does not serve you and it slows your progress. (It works when it serves to scare away your opponent, but we are not your opponents)."Perez broke with the party and wanted a condemnation motion against Clifford, which he never got.Oddly enough, five years after the e-mail, the exchange made it into Orlando Weekly and the Orlando Sentinel. When reached by telephone Thursday, Perez's first words about Paul entering the race were, "The knuckleheads decided to run someone against me.""The real reason is they basically have it in against me because I exposed the anti-Hispanic remarks, and it finally made the English language edition of the Sentinel and the Orlando Weekly," Perez said.Perez said that, essentially, he's waiting for Paul's first campaign finance report in March to decide if he's going to switch back to an NPA candidate. Perez pointed out that Paul lives in House District 37, which is held by Longwood CEO and publisher Scott Plakon."Plakon is unopposed," Perez said. "If they were truly interested in spreading the Libertarian movement, they would have run her in that district. Instead, they chose to run her against me."Paul, who has worked as a computer programmer, business analyst, test engineer and quality assurance tester, said she resents the fact that Perez has called her a fake candidate. She said that, with a focus on the economy and jobs, she offers a better alternative to Perez."I think a little healthy competition is a good thing in America," Paul said. "I don't think the issues he brings up are the critical issues in the country right now." Two Libertarians set to run for District 33

By Abraham Aboraya | February 10, 2010

SEMINOLE COUNTY – The largest Florida House of Representatives district in Seminole County could make history in August by becoming the first third-party primary fight in the state’s history.

Franklin Perez has been running for House District 33 for the last three elections. In 2006 and 2008, the Libertarian ran as a no-party-affiliation candidate, but for 2010, he announced his candidacy as a Libertarian.

That’s because the law was changed in 2007, and now anyone can announce as a candidate of the party of their choosing.

That meant two things: Perez could announce his candidacy as a Libertarian party candidate without getting the nod from the party. But it also means that, because Ellen Paul announced her bid for House District 33 as well, there will now be a primary.

“In the past, in order to be the Libertarian candidate on the ballot, you had to be nominated by the Libertarian Party,” said Sean Concannon, the chairman of the Libertarian Party of Seminole County. “One of the reasons Franklin (Perez) ran NPA was because he could never get that nomination. In fact, he asked it and was declined.”

In Seminole County, there are about 700 registered Libertarians (remember, voters registered as no party affiliated can’t vote in a Libertarian primary).

In House District 33, there are about 181 registered Libertarians, which is about 150 to 160 households.

Mike Ertel, the Seminole County Supervisor of Elections, said the race will show a microcosm of voting statistics. He said this will be a case study in the theory that candidates drive turnout – but on a much smaller scale.

“Even political parties small in numbers are diverse in opinions,” Ertel said. “So they should be able to field a candidate of their choice.”

Paul was registered as a Republican up until Feb. 1, according to records about her voter registration. She also lives in Apopka – which isn’t in District 33 – but said she will move if she’s elected. State law only requires candidates to live in their districts after they are elected.

This has led Perez to call her a “fake candidate” and accuse the Seminole County Libertarian Party of personally attacking him.

He said he first garnered the ire of the Libertarian Party when the press published “anti-Hispanic remarks” by former Libertarian Party Chairman Mark Clifford.

In April 2004, Clifford sent an e-mail to Perez saying, “Your Hispanic nature appears to start creating conflict. … Being machismo does not serve you and it slows your progress. (It works when it serves to scare away your opponent, but we are not your opponents).”

Perez broke with the party and wanted a condemnation motion against Clifford, which he never got.

Oddly enough, five years after the e-mail, the exchange made it into Orlando Weekly and the Orlando Sentinel. When reached by telephone Thursday, Perez’s first words about Paul entering the race were, “The knuckleheads decided to run someone against me.”

“The real reason is they basically have it in against me because I exposed the anti-Hispanic remarks, and it finally made the English language edition of the Sentinel and the Orlando Weekly,” Perez said.

Perez said that, essentially, he’s waiting for Paul’s first campaign finance report in March to decide if he’s going to switch back to an NPA candidate. Perez pointed out that Paul lives in House District 37, which is held by Longwood CEO and publisher Scott Plakon.

“Plakon is unopposed,” Perez said. “If they were truly interested in spreading the Libertarian movement, they would have run her in that district. Instead, they chose to run her against me.”

Paul, who has worked as a computer programmer, business analyst, test engineer and quality assurance tester, said she resents the fact that Perez has called her a fake candidate. She said that, with a focus on the economy and jobs, she offers a better alternative to Perez.

“I think a little healthy competition is a good thing in America,” Paul said. “I don’t think the issues he brings up are the critical issues in the country right now.”

]]> By: Economics9698http://usa-wethepeople.com/2010/02/seminole-county-libertarian-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-842 Economics9698 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:02:03 +0000 http://usa-wethepeople.com/?p=3672#comment-842 Republican Jason Brodeur was not mentioned. He is running in year 2010 for the Florida State House of Representatives (District 33). According to the Florida Division of Elections website, the level of monetary contributions received so far by the candidates running for the Florida State House of Representatives (Distrrict 33 are: 1) Republican Jason Brodeur: $111,377.00 2) Republican Alice Sterling: $94,213.64 3) Republican James D. DeCocq: $2,610.26 4) Republican Scott Bland: $1,150.00 5) Democrat Leo Cruz: $9,317.00 6) REAL Libertarian Franklin Perez: $130.00 7) Fake Libertarian Ellen M. Paul: $0.00 Republican Jason Brodeur was not mentioned. He is running in year 2010 for the Florida State House of Representatives (District 33).

According to the Florida Division of Elections website, the level of monetary contributions received so far by the candidates running for the Florida State House of Representatives (Distrrict 33 are:
1) Republican Jason Brodeur: $111,377.00
2) Republican Alice Sterling: $94,213.64
3) Republican James D. DeCocq: $2,610.26
4) Republican Scott Bland: $1,150.00
5) Democrat Leo Cruz: $9,317.00
6) REAL Libertarian Franklin Perez: $130.00
7) Fake Libertarian Ellen M. Paul: $0.00

]]> By: Economics9698http://usa-wethepeople.com/2010/02/seminole-county-libertarian-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-841 Economics9698 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:00:33 +0000 http://usa-wethepeople.com/?p=3672#comment-841 The last statement "The former chair allegedly objected to provocative and sometimes lewd post on the libertarian message board in defense of legalized prostitution and descriptive details of those encounters allegedly posted by Mr. Perez" is TOTALLY INACCURATE. I posted things in defense of legalizing the Sex Worker Profession, but those posts were done on the Message Board of various Seminole Chronicle articles and Viewpoints in year 2009. The incidents between Mark Clifford and I ocurred back in year 2004. Economics9698 has his/her FACTS and TIMELINE wrong in this specific statement! In order to understand what is going on here, one must got back to the past and read the following: 1) If my political philosophy is Libertarian, why did I not run in years 2006 and 2008 as a Libertarian Party candidate? It had to do with (a) anti-Hispanic remarks made to me by an ex-Chairman of the Libertarian Party of Seminole County Florida while I was the Vice-Chairman of that affiliate and (b) the un-Libertarian attitude - and thus hypocrisy - shown by the leadership of the Libertarian Parties of Seminole County and Florida. I encourage everyone to read more about this at the http://www.fperez1776.com/fperez_2008/why_npa_eng.html hyperlink for details. The last statement “The former chair allegedly objected to provocative and sometimes lewd post on the libertarian message board in defense of legalized prostitution and descriptive details of those encounters allegedly posted by Mr. Perez” is TOTALLY INACCURATE. I posted things in defense of legalizing the Sex Worker Profession, but those posts were done on the Message Board of various Seminole Chronicle articles and Viewpoints in year 2009. The incidents between Mark Clifford and I ocurred back in year 2004.

Economics9698 has his/her FACTS and TIMELINE wrong in this specific statement!

In order to understand what is going on here, one must got back to the past and read the following:
1) If my political philosophy is Libertarian, why did I not run in years 2006 and 2008 as a Libertarian Party candidate? It had to do with (a) anti-Hispanic remarks made to me by an ex-Chairman of the Libertarian Party of Seminole County Florida while I was the Vice-Chairman of that affiliate and (b) the un-Libertarian attitude – and thus hypocrisy – shown by the leadership of the Libertarian Parties of Seminole County and Florida. I encourage everyone to read more about this at the http://www.fperez1776.com/fperez_2008/why_npa_eng.html hyperlink for details.

]]> By: Economics9698http://usa-wethepeople.com/2010/02/seminole-county-libertarian-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-840 Economics9698 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:58:52 +0000 http://usa-wethepeople.com/?p=3672#comment-840 My name is Franklin Perez, and I'm running in year 2010 for the Florida State House of Representatives (District 33) with a Libertarian platform. You may view information about my campaign by going to the following websites: 1) http://www.fperez1776.com 2) http://www.twitter.com/fperez1776 3) http://twitwall.com/view/?who=fperez1776 4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Z1WI2rNqE Economics9698 posted a blog on 2/4/1010 in response to my http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4349 PRESS RELEASE entitled PRESS RELEASE: Libertarian Primary Election to Occur in 2010 Between Franklin Perez and Ellen M. Paul for Florida State House District 33 Race - Disengenuous Motive Exists Given that Ellen M. Paul Resides in Florida State House District 37, which is an Unchallenged Race, and Not in Florida State House District 33! Perez Suspects Libertarian Party of Seminole County Leaders Sean Concannon & Larry Lawver Involved in Propping Up Fake Non-Resident Libertarian Candidate Ellen M. Paul. I later issued a Version 2 of the PRESS RELEASE, which you may find at the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4355 hyperlink, due to some initial innacuries and to add more information. The Blog Article is entitled Seminole County Libertarian Civil War. You may view the contents of the Blog by going to the http://usa-wethepeople.com/2010/02/seminole-county-libertarian-civil-war or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4356 hyperlink. You may also see the contents later on below in this PRESS RELEASE. Below is my response to some of what Economics9698 wrote.... > The normally quit race for Florida House District 33 just erupted into a full blown civil war in the > Libertarian Party. The seat is currently occupied by Sandra “Sandy” Adams, Republican. > James Decocq has filed to run as a Republican for the 2010 election and is the early favorite > to win against Alice Sterling (R), Scott Bland (R) and Leo Cruz (D). Republican Jason Brodeur was not mentioned. He is running in year 2010 for the Florida State House of Representatives (District 33). According to the Florida Division of Elections website, the level of monetary contributions received so far by the candidates running for the Florida State House of Representatives (Distrrict 33 are: 1) Republican Jason Brodeur: $111,377.00 2) Republican Alice Sterling: $94,213.64 3) Republican James D. DeCocq: $2,610.26 4) Republican Scott Bland: $1,150.00 5) Democrat Leo Cruz: $9,317.00 6) REAL Libertarian Franklin Perez: $130.00 7) Fake Libertarian Ellen M. Paul: $0.00 So... if you judge by monetary contributions, the heavy favorite appears to be Republican Jason Brodeur. > The first candidate on the scene who became involved with the Seminole County Libertarian > Party (SCLP) was Franklin Perez around 2000. He ran as a non affiliated candidate in 2006 and > 2008 because of infighting with the Seminole County Libertarian Party leadership citing > “anti-Hispanic remarks”. As former Vice-Chairman Franklin and then LP Chairman Mark Clifford > became estranged over issues of style and substance. The former chair allegedly objected to > provocative and sometimes lewd post on the libertarian message board in defense of legalized > prostitution and descriptive details of those encounters allegedly posted by Mr. Perez. The last statement "The former chair allegedly objected to provocative and sometimes lewd post on the libertarian message board in defense of legalized prostitution and descriptive details of those encounters allegedly posted by Mr. Perez" is TOTALLY INACCURATE. I posted things in defense of legalizing the Sex Worker Profession, but those posts were done on the Message Board of various Seminole Chronicle articles and Viewpoints in year 2009. The incidents between Mark Clifford and I ocurred back in year 2004. Economics9698 has his/her FACTS and TIMELINE wrong in this specific statement! In order to understand what is going on here, one must got back to the past and read the following: 1) If my political philosophy is Libertarian, why did I not run in years 2006 and 2008 as a Libertarian Party candidate? It had to do with (a) anti-Hispanic remarks made to me by an ex-Chairman of the Libertarian Party of Seminole County Florida while I was the Vice-Chairman of that affiliate and (b) the un-Libertarian attitude - and thus hypocrisy - shown by the leadership of the Libertarian Parties of Seminole County and Florida. I encourage everyone to read more about this at the http://www.fperez1776.com/fperez_2008/why_npa_eng.html hyperlink for details. 2) PRESS RELEASE: Franklin Perez Expresses Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4017 3) SUBJECT: Victor Ramos of Orlando Sentinel Reports in his Orlando Sentinel Blog on Franklin Perez's Digust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4028 4) PRESS RELEASE: Commentary of Orlando Sentinel Victor Ramos's Reporting of Franklin Perez's Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4037 5) SUBJECT: Orlando Weekly Mentions Franklin Perez's Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4051 6) PRESS RELEASE: Commentary of Orlando Weekly's Reporting of Franklin Perez's Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4053 7) PRESS RELEASE: Franklin Perez Responds to Sean Concannon's Remarks About Franklin Perez's Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions (Part 1) - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4112 > Mr. Franklin took advantage of the change in election law and registered for District 33 as > a Libertarian. I wanted to run again in year 2010 as a No Party Affiliation candidate because my campaign slogan is "Libertarian and Independent! Not Beholden to Party Politics!", but James Coakley, my main campaign volunteer, confinced me to run as a Libertarian so that the voters would know right right away on the ballot that my political philosophy is Libertarian. As I indicated in the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4017 PRESS RELEASE: "I'll run as a candidate under the Libertarian Party so that voters will know my political philosophy, but I will keep an arms-distance relationship with the Libertarian Party of Florida. I'll continue to express my DISGUST and ANGER over the LPF's refusal to deal appropriately with the anti-Hispanic remarks and Censorship in the LPSC Yahoo Groups by issuing annual PRESS RELEASES similar to this one while I continue to run for the Florida State House of Representatives on a Libertarian political ideology." Sincerely, Franklin Perez (Libertarian) Florida State House Candidate (District 33) - Year 2010 Libertarian and Independent! Not Beholden to Party Politics! http://www.fperez1776.com http://www.twitter.com/fperez1776 http://twitwall.com/view/?who=fperez1776 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Z1WI2rNqE My name is Franklin Perez, and I’m running in year 2010 for the Florida State House of Representatives (District 33) with a Libertarian platform. You may view information about my campaign by going to the following websites:
1) http://www.fperez1776.com
2) http://www.twitter.com/fperez1776
3) http://twitwall.com/view/?who=fperez1776
4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Z1WI2rNqE

Economics9698 posted a blog on 2/4/1010 in response to my http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4349 PRESS RELEASE entitled PRESS RELEASE: Libertarian Primary Election to Occur in 2010 Between Franklin Perez and Ellen M. Paul for Florida State House District 33 Race – Disengenuous Motive Exists Given that Ellen M. Paul Resides in Florida State House District 37, which is an Unchallenged Race, and Not in Florida State House District 33! Perez Suspects Libertarian Party of Seminole County Leaders Sean Concannon & Larry Lawver Involved in Propping Up Fake Non-Resident Libertarian Candidate Ellen M. Paul.

I later issued a Version 2 of the PRESS RELEASE, which you may find at the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4355 hyperlink, due to some initial innacuries and to add more information.

The Blog Article is entitled Seminole County Libertarian Civil War. You may view the contents of the Blog by going to the http://usa-wethepeople.com/2010/02/seminole-county-libertarian-civil-war or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4356 hyperlink. You may also see the contents later on below in this PRESS RELEASE.

Below is my response to some of what Economics9698 wrote….

> The normally quit race for Florida House District 33 just erupted into a full blown civil war in the
> Libertarian Party. The seat is currently occupied by Sandra “Sandy” Adams, Republican.
> James Decocq has filed to run as a Republican for the 2010 election and is the early favorite
> to win against Alice Sterling (R), Scott Bland (R) and Leo Cruz (D).

Republican Jason Brodeur was not mentioned. He is running in year 2010 for the Florida State House of Representatives (District 33).

According to the Florida Division of Elections website, the level of monetary contributions received so far by the candidates running for the Florida State House of Representatives (Distrrict 33 are:
1) Republican Jason Brodeur: $111,377.00
2) Republican Alice Sterling: $94,213.64
3) Republican James D. DeCocq: $2,610.26
4) Republican Scott Bland: $1,150.00
5) Democrat Leo Cruz: $9,317.00
6) REAL Libertarian Franklin Perez: $130.00
7) Fake Libertarian Ellen M. Paul: $0.00

So… if you judge by monetary contributions, the heavy favorite appears to be Republican Jason Brodeur.

> The first candidate on the scene who became involved with the Seminole County Libertarian
> Party (SCLP) was Franklin Perez around 2000. He ran as a non affiliated candidate in 2006 and
> 2008 because of infighting with the Seminole County Libertarian Party leadership citing
> “anti-Hispanic remarks”. As former Vice-Chairman Franklin and then LP Chairman Mark Clifford
> became estranged over issues of style and substance. The former chair allegedly objected to
> provocative and sometimes lewd post on the libertarian message board in defense of legalized
> prostitution and descriptive details of those encounters allegedly posted by Mr. Perez.

The last statement “The former chair allegedly objected to provocative and sometimes lewd post on the libertarian message board in defense of legalized prostitution and descriptive details of those encounters allegedly posted by Mr. Perez” is TOTALLY INACCURATE. I posted things in defense of legalizing the Sex Worker Profession, but those posts were done on the Message Board of various Seminole Chronicle articles and Viewpoints in year 2009. The incidents between Mark Clifford and I ocurred back in year 2004.

Economics9698 has his/her FACTS and TIMELINE wrong in this specific statement!

In order to understand what is going on here, one must got back to the past and read the following:
1) If my political philosophy is Libertarian, why did I not run in years 2006 and 2008 as a Libertarian Party candidate? It had to do with (a) anti-Hispanic remarks made to me by an ex-Chairman of the Libertarian Party of Seminole County Florida while I was the Vice-Chairman of that affiliate and (b) the un-Libertarian attitude – and thus hypocrisy – shown by the leadership of the Libertarian Parties of Seminole County and Florida. I encourage everyone to read more about this at the http://www.fperez1776.com/fperez_2008/why_npa_eng.html hyperlink for details.
2) PRESS RELEASE: Franklin Perez Expresses Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions – http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4017
3) SUBJECT: Victor Ramos of Orlando Sentinel Reports in his Orlando Sentinel Blog on Franklin Perez’s Digust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions – http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4028
4) PRESS RELEASE: Commentary of Orlando Sentinel Victor Ramos’s Reporting of Franklin Perez’s Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions – http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4037
5) SUBJECT: Orlando Weekly Mentions Franklin Perez’s Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions – http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4051
6) PRESS RELEASE: Commentary of Orlando Weekly’s Reporting of Franklin Perez’s Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions – http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4053
7) PRESS RELEASE: Franklin Perez Responds to Sean Concannon’s Remarks About Franklin Perez’s Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions (Part 1) – http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4112

> Mr. Franklin took advantage of the change in election law and registered for District 33 as
> a Libertarian.

I wanted to run again in year 2010 as a No Party Affiliation candidate because my campaign slogan is “Libertarian and Independent! Not Beholden to Party Politics!”, but James Coakley, my main campaign volunteer, confinced me to run as a Libertarian so that the voters would know right right away on the ballot that my political philosophy is Libertarian. As I indicated in the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4017 PRESS RELEASE: “I’ll run as a candidate under the Libertarian Party so that voters will know my political philosophy, but I will keep an arms-distance relationship with the Libertarian Party of Florida. I’ll continue to express my DISGUST and ANGER over the LPF’s refusal to deal appropriately with the anti-Hispanic remarks and Censorship in the LPSC Yahoo Groups by issuing annual PRESS RELEASES similar to this one while I continue to run for the Florida State House of Representatives on a Libertarian political ideology.”

Sincerely,

Franklin Perez (Libertarian)
Florida State House Candidate (District 33) – Year 2010
Libertarian and Independent! Not Beholden to Party Politics!
http://www.fperez1776.com
http://www.twitter.com/fperez1776
http://twitwall.com/view/?who=fperez1776
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Z1WI2rNqE

]]> By: Economics9698http://usa-wethepeople.com/2010/02/seminole-county-libertarian-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-839 Economics9698 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:58:10 +0000 http://usa-wethepeople.com/?p=3672#comment-839 PRESS RELEASE: Libertarian Candidate for Florida State House (District 33) Franklin Perez Responds to Blog Article Entitled "Seminole County Libertarian Civil War" - Cites Some Inaccuracies Dear Members of the Press and Public: My name is Franklin Perez, and I'm running in year 2010 for the Florida State House of Representatives (District 33) with a Libertarian platform. You may view information about my campaign by going to the following websites: 1) http://www.fperez1776.com 2) http://www.twitter.com/fperez1776 3) http://twitwall.com/view/?who=fperez1776 4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Z1WI2rNqE Economics9698 posted a blog on 2/4/1010 in response to my http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4349 PRESS RELEASE entitled PRESS RELEASE: Libertarian Primary Election to Occur in 2010 Between Franklin Perez and Ellen M. Paul for Florida State House District 33 Race - Disengenuous Motive Exists Given that Ellen M. Paul Resides in Florida State House District 37, which is an Unchallenged Race, and Not in Florida State House District 33! Perez Suspects Libertarian Party of Seminole County Leaders Sean Concannon & Larry Lawver Involved in Propping Up Fake Non-Resident Libertarian Candidate Ellen M. Paul. I later issued a Version 2 of the PRESS RELEASE, which you may find at the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4355 hyperlink, due to some initial innacuries and to add more information. The Blog Article is entitled Seminole County Libertarian Civil War. You may view the contents of the Blog by going to the http://usa-wethepeople.com/2010/02/seminole-county-libertarian-civil-war or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4356 hyperlink. You may also see the contents later on below in this PRESS RELEASE. Below is my response to some of what Economics9698 wrote.... > The normally quit race for Florida House District 33 just erupted into a full blown civil war in the > Libertarian Party. The seat is currently occupied by Sandra “Sandy” Adams, Republican. > James Decocq has filed to run as a Republican for the 2010 election and is the early favorite > to win against Alice Sterling (R), Scott Bland (R) and Leo Cruz (D). Republican Jason Brodeur was not mentioned. He is running in year 2010 for the Florida State House of Representatives (District 33). According to the Florida Division of Elections website, the level of monetary contributions received so far by the candidates running for the Florida State House of Representatives (Distrrict 33 are: 1) Republican Jason Brodeur: $111,377.00 2) Republican Alice Sterling: $94,213.64 3) Republican James D. DeCocq: $2,610.26 4) Republican Scott Bland: $1,150.00 5) Democrat Leo Cruz: $9,317.00 6) REAL Libertarian Franklin Perez: $130.00 7) Fake Libertarian Ellen M. Paul: $0.00 So... if you judge by monetary contributions, the heavy favorite appears to be Republican Jason Brodeur. > The first candidate on the scene who became involved with the Seminole County Libertarian > Party (SCLP) was Franklin Perez around 2000. He ran as a non affiliated candidate in 2006 and > 2008 because of infighting with the Seminole County Libertarian Party leadership citing > “anti-Hispanic remarks”. As former Vice-Chairman Franklin and then LP Chairman Mark Clifford > became estranged over issues of style and substance. The former chair allegedly objected to > provocative and sometimes lewd post on the libertarian message board in defense of legalized > prostitution and descriptive details of those encounters allegedly posted by Mr. Perez. The last statement "The former chair allegedly objected to provocative and sometimes lewd post on the libertarian message board in defense of legalized prostitution and descriptive details of those encounters allegedly posted by Mr. Perez" is TOTALLY INACCURATE. I posted things in defense of legalizing the Sex Worker Profession, but those posts were done on the Message Board of various Seminole Chronicle articles and Viewpoints in year 2009. The incidents between Mark Clifford and I ocurred back in year 2004. Economics9698 has his/her FACTS and TIMELINE wrong in this specific statement! In order to understand what is going on here, one must got back to the past and read the following: 1) If my political philosophy is Libertarian, why did I not run in years 2006 and 2008 as a Libertarian Party candidate? It had to do with (a) anti-Hispanic remarks made to me by an ex-Chairman of the Libertarian Party of Seminole County Florida while I was the Vice-Chairman of that affiliate and (b) the un-Libertarian attitude - and thus hypocrisy - shown by the leadership of the Libertarian Parties of Seminole County and Florida. I encourage everyone to read more about this at the http://www.fperez1776.com/fperez_2008/why_npa_eng.html hyperlink for details. 2) PRESS RELEASE: Franklin Perez Expresses Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4017 3) SUBJECT: Victor Ramos of Orlando Sentinel Reports in his Orlando Sentinel Blog on Franklin Perez's Digust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4028 4) PRESS RELEASE: Commentary of Orlando Sentinel Victor Ramos's Reporting of Franklin Perez's Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4037 5) SUBJECT: Orlando Weekly Mentions Franklin Perez's Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4051 6) PRESS RELEASE: Commentary of Orlando Weekly's Reporting of Franklin Perez's Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4053 7) PRESS RELEASE: Franklin Perez Responds to Sean Concannon's Remarks About Franklin Perez's Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions (Part 1) - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4112 > Mr. Franklin took advantage of the change in election law and registered for District 33 as > a Libertarian. I wanted to run again in year 2010 as a No Party Affiliation candidate because my campaign slogan is "Libertarian and Independent! Not Beholden to Party Politics!", but James Coakley, my main campaign volunteer, confinced me to run as a Libertarian so that the voters would know right right away on the ballot that my political philosophy is Libertarian. As I indicated in the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4017 PRESS RELEASE: "I'll run as a candidate under the Libertarian Party so that voters will know my political philosophy, but I will keep an arms-distance relationship with the Libertarian Party of Florida. I'll continue to express my DISGUST and ANGER over the LPF's refusal to deal appropriately with the anti-Hispanic remarks and Censorship in the LPSC Yahoo Groups by issuing annual PRESS RELEASES similar to this one while I continue to run for the Florida State House of Representatives on a Libertarian political ideology." Sincerely, Franklin Perez (Libertarian) Florida State House Candidate (District 33) - Year 2010 Libertarian and Independent! Not Beholden to Party Politics! http://www.fperez1776.com http://www.twitter.com/fperez1776 http://twitwall.com/view/?who=fperez1776 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Z1WI2rNqE PRESS RELEASE: Libertarian Candidate for Florida State House (District 33) Franklin Perez Responds to Blog Article Entitled “Seminole County Libertarian Civil War” – Cites Some Inaccuracies

Dear Members of the Press and Public:

My name is Franklin Perez, and I’m running in year 2010 for the Florida State House of Representatives (District 33) with a Libertarian platform. You may view information about my campaign by going to the following websites:
1) http://www.fperez1776.com
2) http://www.twitter.com/fperez1776
3) http://twitwall.com/view/?who=fperez1776
4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Z1WI2rNqE

Economics9698 posted a blog on 2/4/1010 in response to my http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4349 PRESS RELEASE entitled PRESS RELEASE: Libertarian Primary Election to Occur in 2010 Between Franklin Perez and Ellen M. Paul for Florida State House District 33 Race – Disengenuous Motive Exists Given that Ellen M. Paul Resides in Florida State House District 37, which is an Unchallenged Race, and Not in Florida State House District 33! Perez Suspects Libertarian Party of Seminole County Leaders Sean Concannon & Larry Lawver Involved in Propping Up Fake Non-Resident Libertarian Candidate Ellen M. Paul.

I later issued a Version 2 of the PRESS RELEASE, which you may find at the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4355 hyperlink, due to some initial innacuries and to add more information.

The Blog Article is entitled Seminole County Libertarian Civil War. You may view the contents of the Blog by going to the http://usa-wethepeople.com/2010/02/seminole-county-libertarian-civil-war or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4356 hyperlink. You may also see the contents later on below in this PRESS RELEASE.

Below is my response to some of what Economics9698 wrote….

> The normally quit race for Florida House District 33 just erupted into a full blown civil war in the
> Libertarian Party. The seat is currently occupied by Sandra “Sandy” Adams, Republican.
> James Decocq has filed to run as a Republican for the 2010 election and is the early favorite
> to win against Alice Sterling (R), Scott Bland (R) and Leo Cruz (D).

Republican Jason Brodeur was not mentioned. He is running in year 2010 for the Florida State House of Representatives (District 33).

According to the Florida Division of Elections website, the level of monetary contributions received so far by the candidates running for the Florida State House of Representatives (Distrrict 33 are:
1) Republican Jason Brodeur: $111,377.00
2) Republican Alice Sterling: $94,213.64
3) Republican James D. DeCocq: $2,610.26
4) Republican Scott Bland: $1,150.00
5) Democrat Leo Cruz: $9,317.00
6) REAL Libertarian Franklin Perez: $130.00
7) Fake Libertarian Ellen M. Paul: $0.00

So… if you judge by monetary contributions, the heavy favorite appears to be Republican Jason Brodeur.

> The first candidate on the scene who became involved with the Seminole County Libertarian
> Party (SCLP) was Franklin Perez around 2000. He ran as a non affiliated candidate in 2006 and
> 2008 because of infighting with the Seminole County Libertarian Party leadership citing
> “anti-Hispanic remarks”. As former Vice-Chairman Franklin and then LP Chairman Mark Clifford
> became estranged over issues of style and substance. The former chair allegedly objected to
> provocative and sometimes lewd post on the libertarian message board in defense of legalized
> prostitution and descriptive details of those encounters allegedly posted by Mr. Perez.

The last statement “The former chair allegedly objected to provocative and sometimes lewd post on the libertarian message board in defense of legalized prostitution and descriptive details of those encounters allegedly posted by Mr. Perez” is TOTALLY INACCURATE. I posted things in defense of legalizing the Sex Worker Profession, but those posts were done on the Message Board of various Seminole Chronicle articles and Viewpoints in year 2009. The incidents between Mark Clifford and I ocurred back in year 2004.

Economics9698 has his/her FACTS and TIMELINE wrong in this specific statement!

In order to understand what is going on here, one must got back to the past and read the following:
1) If my political philosophy is Libertarian, why did I not run in years 2006 and 2008 as a Libertarian Party candidate? It had to do with (a) anti-Hispanic remarks made to me by an ex-Chairman of the Libertarian Party of Seminole County Florida while I was the Vice-Chairman of that affiliate and (b) the un-Libertarian attitude – and thus hypocrisy – shown by the leadership of the Libertarian Parties of Seminole County and Florida. I encourage everyone to read more about this at the http://www.fperez1776.com/fperez_2008/why_npa_eng.html hyperlink for details.
2) PRESS RELEASE: Franklin Perez Expresses Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions – http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4017
3) SUBJECT: Victor Ramos of Orlando Sentinel Reports in his Orlando Sentinel Blog on Franklin Perez’s Digust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions – http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4028
4) PRESS RELEASE: Commentary of Orlando Sentinel Victor Ramos’s Reporting of Franklin Perez’s Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions – http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4037
5) SUBJECT: Orlando Weekly Mentions Franklin Perez’s Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions – http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4051
6) PRESS RELEASE: Commentary of Orlando Weekly’s Reporting of Franklin Perez’s Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions – http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4053
7) PRESS RELEASE: Franklin Perez Responds to Sean Concannon’s Remarks About Franklin Perez’s Disgust & Anger at Libertarian Party of Florida for Not Passing Anti-Hispanic & Anti-Censorship Condemnation Motions (Part 1) – http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4112

> Mr. Franklin took advantage of the change in election law and registered for District 33 as
> a Libertarian.

I wanted to run again in year 2010 as a No Party Affiliation candidate because my campaign slogan is “Libertarian and Independent! Not Beholden to Party Politics!”, but James Coakley, my main campaign volunteer, confinced me to run as a Libertarian so that the voters would know right right away on the ballot that my political philosophy is Libertarian. As I indicated in the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4017 PRESS RELEASE: “I’ll run as a candidate under the Libertarian Party so that voters will know my political philosophy, but I will keep an arms-distance relationship with the Libertarian Party of Florida. I’ll continue to express my DISGUST and ANGER over the LPF’s refusal to deal appropriately with the anti-Hispanic remarks and Censorship in the LPSC Yahoo Groups by issuing annual PRESS RELEASES similar to this one while I continue to run for the Florida State House of Representatives on a Libertarian political ideology.”

Sincerely,

Franklin Perez (Libertarian)
Florida State House Candidate (District 33) – Year 2010
Libertarian and Independent! Not Beholden to Party Politics!
http://www.fperez1776.com
http://www.twitter.com/fperez1776
http://twitwall.com/view/?who=fperez1776
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Z1WI2rNqE

]]> By: Franklin Perez - 2010 Libertarian Candidate for Florida State House (District 33)http://usa-wethepeople.com/2010/02/seminole-county-libertarian-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-837 Franklin Perez - 2010 Libertarian Candidate for Florida State House (District 33) Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:57:32 +0000 http://usa-wethepeople.com/?p=3672#comment-837 PRESS RELEASE: Libertarian Candidate for Florida State House (District 33) Franklin Perez Responds to Blog Article Entitled "Seminole County Libertarian Civil War" - Cites Some Inaccuracieshttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4358 PRESS RELEASE: Libertarian Candidate for Florida State House (District 33) Franklin Perez Responds to Blog Article Entitled “Seminole County Libertarian Civil War” – Cites Some Inaccuracies

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4358

]]> By: Franklin Perez - 2010 Libertarian Candidate for Florida State House (District 33)http://usa-wethepeople.com/2010/02/seminole-county-libertarian-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-835 Franklin Perez - 2010 Libertarian Candidate for Florida State House (District 33) Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:04:14 +0000 http://usa-wethepeople.com/?p=3672#comment-835 Hello Folks:This Blog in response to my http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4349 "PRESS RELEASE entitled PRESS RELEASE: Libertarian Primary Election to Occur in 2010 Between Franklin Perez and Ellen M. Paul for Florida State House District 33 Race - Disengenuous Motive Exists Given that Ellen M. Paul Resides in Florida State House District 37, which is an Unchallenged Race, and Not in Florida State House District 33! Perez Suspects Libertarian Party of Seminole County Leaders Sean Concannon & Larry Lawver Involved in Propping Up Fake Non-Resident Libertarian Candidate Ellen M. Paul". I later issued a Version 2 of the PRESS RELEASE, which you may find at the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4355 hyperlink, due to some initial inaccuracies and to add more information.I may decide to issue a PRESS RELEASE in response to the Blog if there's an inaccuracy or to clarify a point. Sincerely, Franklin Perez (Libertarian) Florida State House Candidate (District 33) - Year 2010 Libertarian and Independent! Not Beholden to Party Politics! http://www.fperez1776.com http://www.twitter.com/fperez1776 http://twitwall.com/view/?who=fperez1776 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Z1WI2rNqE (407) 694-7805 Hello Folks:

This Blog in response to my http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4349 “PRESS RELEASE entitled PRESS RELEASE: Libertarian Primary Election to Occur in 2010 Between Franklin Perez and Ellen M. Paul for Florida State House District 33 Race – Disengenuous Motive Exists Given that Ellen M. Paul Resides in Florida State House District 37, which is an Unchallenged Race, and Not in Florida State House District 33! Perez Suspects Libertarian Party of Seminole County Leaders Sean Concannon & Larry Lawver Involved in Propping Up Fake Non-Resident Libertarian Candidate Ellen M. Paul”.

I later issued a Version 2 of the PRESS RELEASE, which you may find at the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SemCountyLibs/message/4355 hyperlink, due to some initial inaccuracies and to add more information.

I may decide to issue a PRESS RELEASE in response to the Blog if there’s an inaccuracy or to clarify a point.

Sincerely,

Franklin Perez (Libertarian)
Florida State House Candidate (District 33) – Year 2010
Libertarian and Independent! Not Beholden to Party Politics!
http://www.fperez1776.com
http://www.twitter.com/fperez1776
http://twitwall.com/view/?who=fperez1776
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Z1WI2rNqE
(407) 694-7805

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