Yesterday my cousin mentioned a blurb she happened to hear on TV about up and coming comments on the Obama “natural born citizen” SCOTUS ruling .. Keith Olbermann was mentioned. Since I have heard nothing on MSM (main stream media) about this issue I set my DVR to record his show.

The segment started like this:
The idea that Barack Obama is not actually a “natural born citizen” of this country is so ridiculous ….

(you can review the video for yourself below) Olbermann has set the tone so what followed was not much of a surprise.

The point that I found most interesting was a comment from David Horowitz … the comment directly below has comments that came to mind as I was listening (remember I talk to the TV).

Below that you will see the Horowitz comment intact.

“The continuing efforts of a fringe group of conservatives to deny Obama his victory and to lay the basis for the claim that he is not a legitimate president is embarrassing and destructive. ”

How about being aware that the “fringe group” is actually a “Loyal American Fringe” (and growing) concerned about the Constitution itself?

“What difference does it make to the future of this country whether Obama was born on US soil?”

WHAT DIFFERERENCE DOES IT MAKE? … that pretty much explains Horowitz’s thought process … loyalty lies not with the Constitution and the intent of our founding fathers.

What matters Mr. Horowitz is … if that person is actually a “natural born citizen” or simply a “citizen of the USA”. One qualifies as President one DOES NOT.

“Advocates of this destructive campaign will argue that the constitutional principle regarding the qualifications for President trumps all others.”

At this point my jaw is dropping realizing Horowitz does not seem to comprehend how destructive HIS ATTITUDE toward this matter is to the Constitution.

“But how viable will our Constitution be if 5 Supreme Court justices should decide to void 64 million ballots?”

How viable will the Constitution be if they DO NOT?
How viable it is without “SOMEONE” vetting the worthiness of our most high HEAD OF STATE?

” … It is not conservatism: it is sore loserism and quite radical in its intent.”

It is neither. It is LOYAL AMERICA tired to the teeth of those like HOROWITZ, OLBERMANN, HUFFINGTON and a myriad of others foisting their agenda on a population who thinks they are getting nightly news rather than “self interest propaganda“.

“Respect for election results is one of the most durable bulwarks of our unity as a nation.”

I agree!

“Conservatives need to accept the fact that we lost the election and get over it;”

NO LOYAL AMERICANS do not have to accept someone who is does not meet the specified requirements of the Constitution.

“and get on with the important business of reviving our country’s economy and defending its citizens, and – by the ways– its Constitution.”

There is no more important business than making sure the Constitution REMAINS in tact and the highest office of our land not be usurped by someone “without credentials”

David Horowitz
National Review Online

I am not sure if MSNBC has altered the content or context of this comment to fit their agenda since I was not able to find the original on the National Review Online site. Two things lead me to speculate on this one of them being the tone of Olbermann himself.

EDIT: It was not entact view the whole article HERE.

“The continuing efforts of a fringe group of conservatives to deny Obama his victory and to lay the basis for the claim that he is not a legitimate president is embarrassing and destructive. ….What difference does it make to the future of this country whether Obama was born on US soil? Advocates of this destructive campaign will argue that the constitutional principle regarding the qualifications for President trumps all others. But how viable will our Constitution be if 5 Supreme Court justices should decide to void 64 million ballots? … It is not conservatism: it is sore loserism and quite radical in its intent. Respect for election results is one of the most durable bulwarks of our unity as a nation. Conservatives need to accept the fact that we lost the election, and get over it; and get on with the important business of reviving our country’s economy and defending its citizens, and — by the way — its Constitution.”

David Horowitz
National Review Online

Arianna Huffington weighs in on the issue stating “I am not a national born citizen”.
Well that was a “no brainer” since both parents are Greek and she herself was born in Athens. So the question remains does Arianna REALLY know what “natural born citizen” means?
Arianna seemed stuck on the line “whether Barack Obama is a “natural born citizen” or not”. To her that was totally unacceptable “its like saying whether the earth is flat or not”.

I found that comment an interesting analogy since we know ONE is NOT and it appears the other is NOT also.

But then it is easy to laugh off the Huffington logic as no logic at all.

Below you will find the whole video clip from the Olbermann show:

Donofrio outlines his argument concisely on his blog in a letter to ABC News:

“The main argument of my law suit alleges that since Obama was a British citizen – at birth – a fact he admits is true, then he cannot be a “natural born citizen”. The word “born” has meaning. It deals with the status of a presidential candidate “at birth”.

Obama had dual nationality at birth. The status of the candidate at the time of the election is not as relevant to the provisions of the Constitution as is his status “at birth.” If one is not “born” a natural born citizen, he can never be a natural born citizen.”

Today is the day that the Supreme Court will decide to review or not cases involving Barack Obama’s “natural born citizen” state.

This situation is a hot potato for the Court.
My guess is they will do their best to figure out some way to simply dismiss all of the cases with a majority of Justices simply in hopes all of this goes away. If just one Justice dismisses the case the whole scenario starts over with the next Justice willing to listen.

There is a peaceful vigil taking place in front of the SC Dec 5th. It is to display solidarity in wanting the cases reviewed and to let the world know there are concerned citizens interested in the outcome.

Will the media report any of this? If they don’t that will be nothing new of course.

Here is another piece of information I got off the Donofrio site and thought I would share. This issue of “natural born citizen” seems to mystify everyone. Here is an explanation (again by Melissa)

Melissa Says:
December 4, 2008 at 10:03 pm

Fact: We know that the Framers recognized a difference between US citizens and natural born citizens.

We don’t need to look FOR the definition of natural born citizen.

We need to be looking AT the definition of a US citizen (which would be what is required to serve as Senator or Representative but isn’t quite enough to let one serve as President).

14th Amendment:
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

This gives the SAME type of citizenship to those who are either:

1. BORN in the United States

OR

2. NATURALIZED in the United States

A child BORN on US soil receives the same type of citizenship as someone that is naturalized.

Either could serve in the Senate or House but NEITHER can serve as President because they are only citizens. Not natural born citizens. They receive the same type of citizenship in different ways.

A child BORN on US soil to two foreign parents is a citizen of the United States.

A child BORN on US soil to one foreign parent and one US citizen is a citizen of the United States.

A person naturalized in the United States is a citizen of the United States.

All Citizens of the United States can serve as Senators and Representatives. They cannot serve as President.

So, now that we’ve figured out who CAN’T be President, who is left that CAN?

A person with two US citizens as parents.

TO: CAPT XXXX XXXX, USNR (Ret.)
XXXXX XXXXXXX Association, Washington Office
Washington, DC 20002

Captain XXXXX,

Sir, as a fellow vet, I know you fully understand the obligation we accept when we say the words, “to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.” As citizen soldiers, those words have special meaning to us. Our allegiance rises above party politics, a man or an institution. Our allegiance is to the US Constitution — that we “defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” To that end, I have a CALL TO ACTION for the XXXXX XXXXXXX Association, action that will not be easy, yet required to ensure the Rule of Law stays intact.

Former US Senator Barack Obama has openly acknowledged that his father was a Kenyan (British) citizen and his mother was an American citizen. At birth in 1961, Barack Obama (Jr) was a dual-citizen – he has confirmed this fact himself. When Barack Obama, Jr, was born in Hawaii, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama, Sr was a British Citizen, whose status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr‘s children.

As outlined in the British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): “Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.”

As a result, Barack Obama, Jr, IS a US citizen, but he is NOT a Natural Born Citizen as required by Article 2, Sect 1, Clause 5 of the US Constitution. Note that the US Constitution outlines that Senators and Representative are required to be US Citizens to hold office. However, the office of President has the unique requirement of Natural Born Citizen. That prerequisite was specifically outlined by the Framers, hearkened by John Jay, the first Chief Justice, to ensure that our Commander in Chief would have “undivided loyalties” to uphold our nation’s interest.

It is unfortunate that the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission allowed this to happen, i.e., not vetting the qualifications of Candidate Barack Obama for the National Election. We are on the precipice of a Constitutional Crisis. Numerous lawsuits are docketed in the US Supreme Court at this time, including a closed-door Conference that has received little press coverage, DONOFRIO V. WELLS, docket# 08A407, which takes place Friday, December 5. Many other cases are coming from different venues, disputing Barack Obama’s birth records to lawsuits challenging various Secretaries of States for their Certification process. Donofrio’s case is unique and directly challenges Barack Obama’s former British citizenship. However, nothing is for sure in the courtroom, and the clock is ticking until judgment is rendered.

Those who wear the uniform are in a unique position. We are UNDER OATH to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States.” We are the last line of defense against our enemies, and we put ourselves directly in harm’s ways at the direction of the Commander in Chief. While serving our nation, although we may not believe in the politics of the President, we follow his directions.

However, under UCMJ, we are to follow all LEGAL orders of our Commanding Officer. I dare say that if an illegitimate CINC holds office, our military may have some significant disorder following Barack Obama’s Inauguration on January 20. The potential of a breakdown in the military Chain of Command should shivers down the spine of any American, certainly those who understand how vulnerable it would make us to our enemies.

Many cases have been swept aside by lower courts for “lack of standing.” Military personnel actually do have the right, and duty, to request verification if there is doubt that the Commander in Chief does not meet Constitutional requirements to hold office. Such “questioning” is not governed by UCMJ Article 88 (Contempt toward Officials), DoD DIRECTIVE 1344.10 (Political Activities by Members of the Armed Forces on Active Duty), or any other UCMJ Article or Directive I can find.

Captain XXXXX, I ask that you consult with attorneys in your network and ask them to review this – I think you’ll be surprised by their response. IT IS VITAL, SIR, THAT YOU UNDERSTAND: There IS a difference between a Citizen, and Natural Born Citizen — even if you are born on US Soil, especially if only ONE of your parents is an American Citizen. If you check online, you’ll find that many Constitutional lawyers are looking at this and agree we are headed toward a Constitutional crisis in the next few weeks. Unfortunately, it may fall on those of us are affected by this the most, the nation’s military, to keep this from happening.

Because military personnel are bound to the US Constitution by oath, it is believed by many of who are watching this situation that US Active Duty and Reservist have the legal standing to file lawsuits directly in the US Federal Court system. In doing so, these groups of Active Duty and/or Reservists can “fast track” this issue directly to the US Supreme Court to “Stay” the Electoral College vote that is to take place on December 15. Barack Obama is NOT President-Elect officially until the Electoral College meets and declares him so.

The Objective of these lawsuits is to have the US Supreme Court, or a significant portion of states’ Electoral College officials, investigate this further before Electoral College delegates from each state cast their votes on December 15. The 22nd Amendment would permit President George Bush to remain CINC until this issue is resolved.

Please note that AFTER the Electoral College votes on December 15, Congress would then certify the EC votes. Unfortunately, there is little reason to believe Congress has the “intestinal fortitude” to evaluate this properly before January 20 – they have NOT up to this point.

Sir, I know this is a sensitive situation, not lightly undertaken. It flirts with unconscionable topics like “political activity,” “chain of command,” and other deemed scandalous by opponents. However, overriding such concerns must be the issues of the “Rule of Law,” and specifically to us as military leaders, the “US Uniformed Services Oath of Office.”

It is neither unpatriotic nor insubordinate to ask of our civilian authorities: “If Barack Obama’s father was a British Citizen at the time of Barack Obama’s birth, is Barack Obama a “Natural Born Citizen” as the Constitution requires for the office of President?”

It will not be up to the US Military to decide the road for us ahead. However, if we don’t act IMMEDIATELY, I fear the officials who have the power to have the ability to stop this probable infraction of the US Constitution will not exercise the political courage to act.

COURAGE is a quality of which those in the US Military possess in abundance. NOW is the time to exercise that courage.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at XXX-XXX-XXXX.

Respectfully,

XXXX XXXXXXX

Who is reporting the monumental flap that has arisen over Barack Obama’s belligerence in turning over documentation proving “Natural Born Citizenship”?

Apparetly no one other than those of us here on the Internet.

Moment by moment a new spark has been ignited until we are now experiencing a full blown fire that CAN NOT be extinguished.

A smolder that could easily have been stopped the moment the DNC and Obama himself were requested to present proof.

For those of you who landed on this page from some search engine or elsewhere in cyberland … if you are lost START AT THE BEGINNING HERE.

So why has Barack Obama REFUSED to make full disclosure?
Why would he be party to keeping this fire fueled?
Has he now painted himself into a corner from where there is no escape short of a Supreme Court BAIL OUT?

No matter what happens now, he will FOREVER have this doubt hanging over his head no matter what the decisions are.

All of these questions are ones I have asked myself hundreds of times since before election day on 11/4/2008.
None of them have been answered in my own head and the news MEDIA REMAINS MISSING IN ACTION.

Apparently others are beginning to voice the same complaint. Here is a piece written by Joan Swirsky of the Tulsa Today News titled The Great Birth Certificate Scandal/Cover-Up of ‘08.
This is a very detailed article and well worth the read.

Little by little the public is beginning to understand how they have been led/herded like “Sheeple” into ignorance.

There is nothing to fuel the public into outrage and action faster than showing they have been made FOOLS of by the MEDIA and their GOVERNMENT.

Again “we the people” have trusted MEDIA to tell us what to think and PARROT.

So here we are today fighting one of the largest attacks on our US Constitution to date and NOT A PEEP from those who should be on it like “ugly on a stick”.

It makes Bill O’Reilly’s “I’m looking out for the folks” the joke of the century.
I say that being a fan of his since he hit Fox.

Well the next noteworthy process in this out of control fire storm is Leo Donofrio.

Out of all of the suits filed … that of Leo Donofrio appears to be the one most likely to stick like spaghetti to the wall.

So who is Leo Donofrio?

A young lawyer who was inactive and had never filed a lawsuit.

A resident of New York, NY

Is now a tournament poker player with the nickname of Jet Schizo.

He started playing Hold em poker in 2002 and has made it a goal to be the best tournament hold em player the world has ever seen.

Today he finds himself in the spotlight fighting the corruption of an Ohio State judge while his case is up for consideration by 9 Supreme Court Justices on Dec. 5th. IF Four of the Nine Justices favor review, A hearing will be held.

No doubt the Justices are not anxious to be involved in this mess and indeed world not find it necessary had the Secretaries of each State been doing their jobs.

It seems that when all of this started to surface on the internet Leo’s Blog sites started to have a problem. He has to date gone through 2 and now is hopefully on a server that is more secure.

Keep updated on the progress of Leo and his suits by visiting his web pages at:

Latest Blog
First Site where you will find all of the original documents filed.
Second site is on a Google spam alert even though every effort has been made to rectify this situation.

For those of you interested in listening to the recorded interview with Leo Donofrio on the Lan Lamphere Show … they are below.